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Derby Fencing - Voluptuary, bred for Queen Victoria, may be the only horse to get run within the Epsom Derby and gone on to win the Grand National. Voluptuary was trained from the brothers William and Ted Wilson at Illmington, Warwickshire. He ran inside the Derby in 1881, briefly holding the key position because he rounded Tattenham Corner, but finished sixth to Iroquois. The six years old then won at Aintree, on jockey Ted Wilson (among the trainers), by four lengths at his debut (in public places) over fences in 1884.

Voluptuary ran an additional 3 times in the Grand National, but much to everyone's; especially trainer William Wilson's; disappointment, he didn't complete the course anymore! When his racing career was over, he got a billing in a London theatre production, regularly appearing about the Drury Lane stage where he'd to pay off a mock Water jump night after night inside the play 'Prodigal Daughter', ridden by actor Leonard Boyne who subsequently bought him.

Fences Derby - Other Derby runners who proceeded to race within the National were An english Yeoman, belonging to John Elmore and Ryshworth belonging to Henry Chaplin. An english Yeoman was placed third and sixth in the Nationals of 1848 and 1849 after being unplaced at Epsom in 1843. He failed to finish inside the National of 1850, and that he was brought down in his final attempt, in the ages of 16, in 1856. Ryshworth was a runner up inside the 1873 National after coming fourth in the 1869 Derby.

Donzelon ran, but didn't impress within the Derby of 1924, but continued to win the Scottish Grand National in 1929. However, his only attempt at Aintree in 1930, where he was obviously a 66-1 outsider, resulted in an autumn. Brienz won the 1928 Dewhurst Stakes and handle third within the 1929 Derby. He was good around the fences, winning the Coventry Cup Chase on the 1933 Cheltenham Festival, as well as came fourth in the Gold Cup in 1936. His entries in to the Grand National didn't supply the same kind of results, while he fell in the 1935 and 1936 races.

Permit was another to perform inside the Derby as well as the National. He never showed much promise on the Flat but was capable in the event it stumbled on the Fences, and he finished third in the Haydock National Trial of 1969 and also the Greenall Whitley National Trial of 1971. His attempts at winning the nation's did not arrive at fruition - he was brought down in a stack up inside the first open ditch in 1970 plus 1972 fell like a 100-1 outsider.

Fencing Derby - Trainers that have had horses win the Derby as well as the Grand National include Dick Dawson with Drogheda who won the nation's in 1898, then Fifinella, Trigo and Blenheim, who won the Derby in 1916, 1929 and 1930 respectively. George Blackwell performed a similar feat winning the Epsom in 1903 with Rock Sand and going onto win the nation's in 1923 with Sergeant Murphy.